Karl Marx, is that you?
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Marx proposed central planning.
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This might seem like I'm proselytizing but have you read any Marx?
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On that topic I find Ayn Rand is similar to Marx.
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Both Rand and Marx had observations rooted in analysis and made predictions that never happened.
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I do remember that a few years back, one of the channels that plays a bunch of older movies (I think it was Turner Classic Movies) had a Marx Brothers marathon, which I was pretty pumped about.
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Look, it really does not fucking matter how Marx defined his "exploitation", because the word "exploitation" is the essence there.
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Marx wrote something in a book, none of his analysis came true, you believe in purely based on faith because he said it.
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You keep saying that Marx just pulled a book out of his ass and that the entire scholarly field of Marxism is a cult.
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Marx also suggested that unless the workers seize the means of production and thus the political power, the revolution will always be betrayed from within and the bourgeois state will remain intact in the hands of the new bourgeoisie.
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I feel the need to point out the silliness of arguing that because communism hasn't materialized in the last century then it's clearly impossible and Marx was wrong about everything.
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Communism, Marx argued, was the next stage in human civilization.
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The ghost of Marx will haunt you!
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Don't forget that Marx and Engels were economists.
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I am pretty sure you cannot find anywhere in Capital where Marx argues (or otherwise suggests) reducing hours of labor will reduce wages and leaves profits unchanged.
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Marx called this Surplus Value.
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He's a Vermont socialist from the 1960s, there is no way he is not intimately familiar with the works of Marx and Bakunin.
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i get that marx defines classes by relationships to means of production, hence my example, showcasing why that's a ridiculous way to split up today's world.
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Reading his stuff is like a high schoolers shtick who just read Marx for the first time.
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Historical materialism isn't a "dogmatic interpretation" of Marx.
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If you know anything about Marx you'd know that he'd be the first to say that what was appropriate in the past is not necessarily appropriate for the present or the future.
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Or for that matter Marx.
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Literally Marx.
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Well based on marx, capitalism is only like 150 years old as he invented it... so therefore slave owners were not capitalists...
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At least this one doesn't quote Marx all the time.
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Or for that matter Marx.
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Of course Marx was critical of utopian ideas of labor-money by the Proudhonists and such but the whole point of the labor voucher as Marx envisioned (as temporarily necessary) was that they could not circulate, therefore could not be a commodity, therefore could not transform into money.
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There are people who try to get around the problem of their capitalist socialism by saying that money is now replaced by what they call a labour voucher but what they are actually doing is just replacing what is printed on the paper, such as the idea of a "labour money" or "labour notes" that Marx critiqued.
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So yes, in a way the ability to not be exchangeable is one aspect, but it is not the whole aspect, because for Marx his labour vouchers come out of a different system where property had been abolished with the commodity form, with each labour voucher now representing a section of the total amount of labour required from each contributor.
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The use of special bodies of armed men in the bolshevik party was something done out of necessity, Marx saw the numerical superiority of workers as important, something that was not present in Russia, but M-L's luckily have more of a can do spirit than left-coms and made the best of it.
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Marx is also considered an authority on capitalism.
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That is a whole area that Marx does not see.
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The question is whether for Marx primitive accumulation is a process that occurs at the beginning of capitalism and is specific to that phase, or that is a process that continues and returns.
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Whatever Marx may have said, there are many statements that may lean one way or the other, but my position is that primitive accumulation is not fixed, is not an event that is limited to the origin of capitalism, is an event that has continuously returned through the history of capitalism.
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TIL Marx did not believe the Paris Commune to be a socialist.
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Don't forget the commonest revolutions of the last century can all be said to have jumped the gun in that Marx only really thought of communism as being able to work (and the likely eventual outcome) of a very successful capitalist society.
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You may hate ideas of Marx but it's no Marx.
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The bourgeoisie and petite bourgeoisie in the public service do very well for themselves compared to the ordinary people and that's what Marx says and so does Eddie.
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Your quasi definition of capitalism would not be one that Marx would take seriously, afaik.
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He most likely has read quite a lot about it, not second hand opinions or a critic of it, rather the actual Manifesto and other literature, from Marx to Engels and also Lenin (which I encourage people to do so, as Lenin made a critic of his early years after 1917 and warned about Stalin - also, he should be judge taking into account historical context and knowledge of the reality in Russia), thus he knows what Socialism and then Communism and knows better.
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I know plenty of slimy populist pricks who believe in Marx and point out the issues with overpaid public sector workers, I also know plenty of right wing free market lunatics who believe the exact same thing.
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It is almost exactly the same thing Marx said about what life would be like under communism.
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Of course Marx was critical of utopian ideas of labor-money by the Proudhonists and such but the whole point of the labor voucher as Marx envisioned (as temporarily necessary) was that they could not circulate, therefore could not be a commodity, therefore could not transform into money.
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Marx argued that the proletariat would seize control of the economy and society, in a stage he described as socialism.
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